Russia's Newest Holiday??

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June 6th, 2003, 03:25 PM
Babushka

Russia's Newest Holiday??

I understand that June 12 is the date of Russia's newest holiday. It is also my birthday. What exactly is the holiday?

Thanks
June 6th, 2003, 06:37 PM
mike

Independence Day. It is the day the Russian Federation signed the declaration of sovereignty.
June 6th, 2003, 07:07 PM
Babushka

Babushka

Oh right. Cool!!!
June 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

Isn't Babushka grandmother?

I remember that girl I know who is Russian yelling Babuyla! into my ear and her cousin yells Babushka! into the other.
June 7th, 2003, 11:37 AM
Babushka

Babushka

Yes, Babushka is grandmother. Why were you being yelled at??
June 10th, 2003, 06:15 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

I wasn't being yelled at, the girls were yelling for their grandma to give them five more dollars so we could order pizza from Papa Johns. This was on a sunday a couple weeks ago.
June 10th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Babushka

Yelled??

Oh right!!! LOL
July 3rd, 2004, 09:55 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

BABUYLYA!!!! GDYE TYI!!! BABULLLLL!!!
July 3rd, 2004, 10:13 PM
astarz41

So June 12th is now an official national holiday? Are people going to get a day off work?
July 3rd, 2004, 10:45 PM
TheMoonMonst3r

BABUSKA!! KUDA TYI EDIOSH????? ГДЕ ТЫ!,!,!,!,!!,??????
July 5th, 2004, 05:09 AM
Alex_Ivanov

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Originally Posted by astarz41

So June 12th is now an official national holiday? Are people going to get a day off work?

Yes, it's official national holiday and we get a day off work... The newest and the strangest holiday... Whom did we became independent from?
July 5th, 2004, 05:19 AM
Dogboy182

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EDIOSH

yea, EDIOSH is really a word, great work.

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Whom did we became independent from?

The warsaw pact or something... :lol:
July 5th, 2004, 07:03 AM
astarz41

I'd just be happy to get a day off 8) And plus *every* country has to have an independence day! :wink:

When did Russia become independent? When the USSR broke up or is this something recent? What was the Warsaw pact :oops:
July 5th, 2004, 11:20 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

BABULLLLLLL!!! I miss u!! :cry: Where'd u go?? :cry:
July 8th, 2004, 06:25 PM
BJ

Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin initiated the holiday in 1994 to commemorate the Russian parliament's declaration of sovereignty from the Soviet Union on June 12, 1990.

Originally known as Independence Day, the holiday was later renamed and transformed into a celebration of Russia itself and the unity of the huge country.

Cribbed from a Chinese website!
July 8th, 2004, 08:13 PM
Alex_Ivanov

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Originally Posted by astarz41

When did Russia become independent? When the USSR broke up or is this something recent?

Official version was that Russia became independent from Soviet Union... Sounds ridiculous. Russian state exists since 9th century, Kievan Rus, Moscovy, Russia, Russian Empire, Soviet Russia, Soviet Union and Russian Federation are only different forms of this state... So, to become independent from our own state, from ourselves... it's very funny :) I think it's right that it was recently renamed to "Day of Russia". At least it's day off and every country have something like that... :D

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What was the Warsaw pact :oops:

It was Russian answer to US' NATO.
July 8th, 2004, 09:07 PM
TheMoonMonst3r

Где моя бабуль?????!!!! :( :cry:
July 8th, 2004, 09:19 PM
Friendy

Да, бабуля, как не стыдно кидать родного внука на произвол судьбы! :wink: :lol:
July 9th, 2004, 06:49 AM
Scorpio

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Originally Posted by Alex_Ivanov

Official version was that Russia became independent from Soviet Union... Sounds ridiculous. Russian state exists since 9th century, Kievan Rus, Moscovy, Russia, Russian Empire, Soviet Russia, Soviet Union and Russian Federation are only different forms of this state... So, to become independent from our own state, from ourselves... it's very funny :) I think it's right that it was recently renamed to "Day of Russia". At least it's day off and every country have something like that... :D

It's not ridiculous. If "Russia" and "Soviet Union" are considered to be different states, it may be logical. But if Yeltsin politics were more consistent here, he should also declare total indendence from old Soviet's
responsibilities and debts. This should be much more wise thing to do. :)
July 9th, 2004, 09:27 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

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Originally Posted by Friendy

Да, бабуля, как не стыдно кидать родного внука на произвол судьбы! :wink: :lol:

Moon Monster LubLob Babulyayayayayayaya!!! :(
July 9th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Артемида

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Originally Posted by Scorpio

It's not ridiculous. If "Russia" and "Soviet Union" are considered to be different states, it may be logical.

by whom is it considered to be? It was said by some high respectable historicans, that there are only 3 countries in the world which were independent during last 500 years - England, Russia and Switzerland, so this holiday is kind of political game and actually this day can't be a holiday coz Russia lost many her territories, and we celebrate this "great" event... :x
July 10th, 2004, 11:27 AM
Alex_Ivanov

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Originally Posted by Scorpio

If "Russia" and "Soviet Union" are considered to be different states, it may be logical

They are not different states, but different forms of one state. Soviet union was my country, Russia is my country. Name has changed, so what?

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Originally Posted by Артемида

this holiday is kind of political game and actually this day can't be a holiday coz Russia lost many her territories, and we celebrate this "great" event... :x

Though we don't really need some of these territories, there's nothing to celebrate, I agree.
July 11th, 2004, 05:06 AM
Friendy

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Originally Posted by Alex_Ivanov

Soviet union was my country, Russia is my country.

That's because you're a citizen of Russia. A citizen of, say, Ukraine would say only the first part of your sentence.
July 11th, 2004, 09:57 AM
Alex_Ivanov

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Originally Posted by Friendy

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Originally Posted by Alex_Ivanov

Soviet union was my country, Russia is my country.

That's because you're a citizen of Russia. A citizen of, say, Ukraine would say only the first part of your sentence.

It's true, Friendy, but we're talking about "independence" of Russia, not about independence of Ukraine...
July 11th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Friendy

[quote=Alex_Ivanov]

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Originally Posted by Friendy

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Originally Posted by "Alex_Ivanov":rh2knt1v

Soviet union was my country, Russia is my country.

That's because you're a citizen of Russia. A citizen of, say, Ukraine would say only the first part of your sentence.

It's true, Friendy, but we're talking about "independence" of Russia, not about independence of Ukraine...[/quote:rh2knt1v]
Ah, I see, then you have a point here. But we can say that Russia became independent from other republics (one can argue about its sense but formally we can say so :) ).
July 11th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Alex_Ivanov

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Originally Posted by Friendy

But we can say that Russia became independent from other republics (one can argue about its sense but formally we can say so :) ).

We can also say that on that day state power became independent from people :lol:

Seriously, Russia was never dependent from other soviet republics, wasn't she?
July 12th, 2004, 09:48 AM
BETEP

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Originally Posted by Alex_Ivanov

Seriously, Russia was never dependent from other soviet republics, wasn't she?

Of course, it was because Russia was a part of Union. Another question, why Russia was a part nevertheless the Russia has all of them before 1917.
April 4th, 2005, 09:51 AM
TheMoonMonst3r

бабул моя, куда ты едёшь? :( :!: